Monday 14 February 2011

Changing from tomboy to girly girl.

After that date when he confessed he hated what I wore I had time to think. Part of me was angry, the other part felt loved. We must of spent hours talking on the phone about it. This was his take:

He said that although I probably won't admit it I am vunerable. I have been hurt in the past and I need protecting. He is desperate to protect me. He wants to guide me and lead me. He wants to take away all my problems. He wants to protect me from the world. He touched on work and said he didn't like me there because a lot of the male colleagues were very poor role models and a bad influence. He wanted me to have a dependancy on him.

He asked what I thought of a man wearing womens clothes. Did this turn me on? Of course not!. He said it was a direct comparsion but when a woman wears trousers and trainers it takes away the femine aspect of a woman. He said all this might appear sexist but its not. For John he wants to be the protector of me which feels lovely.

Another area John talked about was letting go. He said he once observed me playing with the salt and pepper pot at a cafe when he was paying. How embarrasing I thought but I do tend to do silly things. He said he was to nuture this. He said I have an inner child in me that has never gone away and that I should never hide it away as when its out I am at my most innocent. I thought that was a nice comment but didn't really understand it. He explained I don't like responsibility and with him he would be responsible for me.

He then struck a chord. He talked about when my mum use to make me wear skirts or dresses when we went out as a family. When I became an adult I had never learnt to accept normal girls or womens clothes. John would now have to treat me in a child like way and make me wear feminine clothes. Boy I was confused.

Back to the topic. John had agreed to take me shopping. A first for me, my past boyfriends hated shopping and I didn't like it much either. He even told me the night before what to wear. I was to wear a pair of jeans which seemed strange and a pair of shoes and a blouse of my choice. He made no comment about underwear luckily.

He picked me up and we drove off, me expecting to go the the nearest shopping centre but he headed off in the opposite direction. I asked where he was taking me and he said "Wait and see princess". Princess? This was the first time he called me princess. I smiled in accpetance. It felt okay him saying it.

After what seemed ages we arrived in a market town I use to visit occasionally when I was younger as my Aunt lived there. It had all the usual high street shops together with some independent shops. So after parking the car he led me away and the first shop was M&S. How predictable I thought. John then suprised me by saying he just wanted to buy some cufflinks. He knew what he wanted and put them in the basket. We then wondered over to the dreaded hosiery section. I tried to look interested and was actually surprised about the selection. Not that I was choosing. He picked off a multi pack of 60 denier opaque brown tights and put them straight in the basket without consulting me. He then bought himself some other stuff, a tie from memory. At least he only bought one pack of tights for me. He paid and we decided to have a coffee in the shop. I thought this a little strange as we had only got there.

As we sat down, he told me to go the toilet to put on my tights under my jeans. Why I thought and asked!. Simple he said. I would be trying on lots of skirts and dresses today so needed to be wearing them. Can't I try them on bare legged if I am just trying them? I then sensed a little annoyance in his tone. Just put them on he said, they are just  a normal part of a womans wardrobe. Go on.

I was told! I got up a little reluctant and went into the toilets. I went into the cubicle and sat down. I undid my jeans and lowered them down. I was wearing charlie brown socks! Funny what you remember. I took them off and opened the pack of tights. 60 denier. I thought they were too thick and I would start to get too hot, especially shopping all day. I had agreed though so I gathered the one leg up and slowly began to peel it back onto my leg. Suddenly all the thoughts of my childhood came back to me. What was I doing? I continued and gathered the other leg up and stepped into them. I rolled them up and watched my legs being covered in brown denier. I felt uncomortable when they reached my waist. Then I thought, come on, they are only tights, what's the big deal and John will be happy. I still felt sorry for myself though. Anyway I whipped on my jeans and shoes and went back out.

As I walked back to the table John could now see I was wearing tights. His eyes wandered down to my shoes. "See that wasn't that bad was it?". I explained my concerns but they were dismissed. He even asked me to hand over my lovely charlie brown socks, apparently to avoid tempation. He stuffed them into his bag. Come on then princess, lets go shopping.

We first entered a traditional womens boutique. It was quite a nice shop, with plenty of choice, mainly the dressier end. Its a shop I would have never walked into. The shop assistant was mid 40's and smiled. She put on a fake smile and muttered something about helping us if we needed it. John went to over to evening dresses. I stoold there looking a bit dum, thinking shouldn't this be the other way around? Not long after John pulled out a evening beaded cocktail dress and put it towards my front. I looked in horror. I can't wear that. He seemed to ignore me and told me to try it. I complained again and gave him a child like look. He just pointed to the changing room and told me not be silly. I huffed a bit and went to change.

I hated it. I never liked dresses. I hated the restriction, the look, the feel just everything. Well its a compromise I thought. If I agree on 1 dress he may back off. I took my jeans off for a second time. I took of my top and changed into the dress. It was a silk dress and well very dressey. It was royal blue in colour, very floaty and had a chiffon style neckline. I looked at myself in the mirror. Clearly the tights didn't match. I looked uncomfortable.

The shop has seats arranged outside the changing rooms so you could parade to your partner. I nervously stepped out for approval. Johns eyes turned into goldfish bowls. His whole face lit up. "My god princess, the change is amazing. You look 1000 dollars. You can see now why jeans and t-shirts just don't work." I continued to stand there while he commented on my change. It felt nice in a way, but I didn't like the dress and didn't like been told what to wear. He didn't ask my opinion why upset me.

I changed back into my jeans, very tempted to take off my tights at this stage but resisted. I pulled back the curtain and John grabbed the dress and took it the till.

We then went into a high street shop to try on some skirts. I paid a little more interest in the skirts than the dress. Not that John seemed to listen to my choices. I must admit he had a good eye for detail, better for me, quickly grabbing skirts from the rack and putting them against me and deciding. He eventually selected 3 skirts and directed me to the changing rooms. I showed the girl the skirts and she handed me a token. Off came the jeans again and I slipped the first skirt on each, a flared brown knee lenght skirt. I popped out the changing room and walked towards John. He approved and I went back. This went on again and I tried on a layered skirt which John approved on again. I then tried on pencil skirt and by now just wanted John to approve but I could see he didn't like the pencil skirt.

Finially I got out and he purchased the two skirts and put the pencil skirt back. Off we went again. We then went back to M&S and he picked out some "work skirts" which filled with me horror.  I hated people noticing something different about me. This really would get the tongues wagging. Anyway John had decided and I tried on another 4 skirts of which he purchased 3.

We then back to the hoisery section at which point I asked if I could get some leggings. No was the blunt answer. He literally chose loads of tights and also 3 pairs of hold ups. I had never worn holdups before. We then went to choose some tops. He picked out a floral print blouse, a woven ruffle blouse and another layered type blouse.

You may be wondering how I remember all this. Well this is a direct copy from my diary, but the day is still as clear in my mind now as it were yesterday.

All this had taken ages but John hadn't finished. He could see I was wearing thin but wanted me to try on some shoes. I pursuaded him to stay in the same shop. I tried on 2 pairs ballet pump style shoes. Both pairs had the bow style on. He seemed happy so he bought them. When he paid I had wondered off to the exit. Actually I was looking at a watch. He waved to me and walked over. "I want you to put this skirt and blouse on with the shoes I have bought for. I had a word with the changing room assistant. You can change now." I tried to talk him out it but I felt guilty afterall he had bought all the clothes. I went back in slipped my comfortable jeans off and put the layered skirt on, then the blouse and shoes. I looked at myself in the mirror and felt a bit upset. What was I doing? I thought I look unhappy John may change his mind.

I don't think he noticed my expression when I walked out. His eyes went wide again and he commented on how lovely I looked. We walked back to the car with his compliments continuing. He carefully put all the bags in the boot and got in. "We are not finished yet, I am taking you for lunch". He could see I had tears in my eyes now. He got in the car and asked the reason for the tears.

I explained it felt like going back to a child, being told and made to wear clothes I disliked. He then told me to close my eyes, which I did. He then put my hands on my knees. He then slightly tilted my head to each his and kissed me. Wow it felt wonderful. We had kissed before but not like this. I felt wonderful. He then said, as a plain as day "I love you". That was the first time he said it. He repeated what he had said about how jeans don't work for me and how great I looked in a skirt or blouse.

Then the serious words came out. He told me from now on every time we date I was to wear a skirt or dress and always with tights. He said that meant for work as well. I asked why can't I go bare legged. His answer was mixed. He said he didn't like other men looking at my bare legs, for his eyes only and that tights were just a normal but feminine part of a girls wardrobe. He said he appreicated it was a big move but insisted in no time at all I would forget I was wearing them or a skirt, it would become normal.

So this was the start of my long journey from a tomboy to a feminine girl. Pleasing a man is not as easy as I had thought.


26 comments:

  1. Hi - just Googled "me wear skirts" and found your blog.  I was looking on the net because my husband ( who's away) tonight absolutely insists I wear nothing but skirts and interested to read of other women with similar experiences. 

    We have a very traditional 'old fashioned' sort of marriage and I've gone from being a typical working women to being a SAHM of 3 young children, with my husband as the head of the house - which I never planned but absolutely love. 

    I guess I wouldn't mind wearing jeans occasionally but it is important to me to look feminine and my husband hates women wearing trousers so I have worn a skirt or dress every day since we got married 7 years ago. 

    Your boyfriend / husband ? is obviously v conservative on his view of women. My husband was much more liberal when we met but we both wanted a traditional marriage and as time has gone on  we find that in almost every aspect of our lives that we want to follow the sort of traditional family and moral values, on gender roles, dress, sexual issues etc which  I would have scoffed at when I was younger but seem really right to me now. So you may be on more of a journey than you realise. 

    Regards Susanne 

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  2. Hello Susanne

    Thank you for your comment. It was nice to hear back from someone in a similiar position.

    I am still learning to accept girly clothes from living as a tomboy. It does take time to get use to skirts, dresses and the like.

    How strict is your husband. Does he insist soley on skirts/dresses or can you wear trousers or jeans on agreed terms? Does he insist on hoisery? This I find rather annoying but is something I have to put up with.

    Did it take you a long time to accept him as the head of house? What other elements in your relationship changed. I hope you don't mind the questions. Write back soon. Love Kate.

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  3. Hi Kate quick reply while the little one is having his morning nap.

    I don't know if we're in the same situation, where are you in your relationship ? it's hard to tell as you write in the past ? Are you living together or married yet ? What about kids ?

    The big changes for me were moving in together (we were together for years before we got married but had separate flats we only bought a house after we got engaged), losing my independence financially as I stopped work for good 6 months into my first pregnancy and biggest of all of course becoming a SAHM which was always the plan. Fertility issues were constantly in my mind as soon as we got engaged even if we didn't start trying until after the wedding. I got pregnant very quickly so pregnancy nursing and the children dominated everything from then on.

    I have never been a tomboy and wore a skirt to work most days and often at weekends before I got married so even if I wasn't girly it wasn't that hard to change and I wanted to because I felt that changing personal things including clothes to please my husband was part of being married and I knew my husbands idea of his perfect woman/wife (which sound a lot like yours) so I knew what he liked skirts were only part of that.

    He isn't strict now our relationship isn't like that and I'm more conservative on most issues than my DH anyway I am careful what I wear and my girlfriends joke that I'm a prude and have Victorian attitudes to gender and sex all of which he approves of so we rarely disagree about things. He doesn't make me wear anything in particular and anyway I don't have any choice about skirts I don't have anything else. I wear tracksuit bottoms with a sports skirt over to cycle and salopettes to ski but that's it. I don't like bare legs unless I've got a tan and tights are just practical also you need the coverage playing with the kids etc and opaque tights help you get away with slightly shorter skirts.

    Susanne

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  4. Hi Susanne

    Problem with me was I was a tomboy through and through. I lived in jeans, trainers and tshirts and never wore skirts or dresses so going from this to wear skirts every day was and is a big change.

    I am now married but writing this blog from the point I met John and hope to write it up to date.

    It sounds like it was easier for you if you didn't mind wearing skirts before.

    The whole journey is one of discovery and acceptance for me. With John it was not just about me looking girly. He now makes all the decisions on everything which can be challenging at times, especially when I don't share his viewpoint. Do you find this? Write back soon.

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  5. Hi Kate. I understand congratulations ! Look forward to reading more. I guess if you’ve got used to wearing masculine tomboy stuff all the time such a complete makeover and a whole new wardrobe was a shock, even if you wanted to do it. But honestly it won’t be a problem once you get used to it and you will be surprised how much it changes how you feel about yourself. Forgive me if I’m teaching you to suck eggs but a couple of tips might help.

    There are lots of casual practical and feminine everyday clothes, skirts dresses and tops which you should be really perfectly comfortable. If your DH interferes a lot, try to make him understand that you want to look feminine but have to be practical, men always go for things which are too dressy. Try to think of him wanting you to dress conservatively as a sign of respect. It’s not hard anyway and you don’t have to look frumpy, just avoid anything deliberately sexy, short low etc concentrate on looking pretty.

    It is important to wear skirts which are long enough, so you can relax and make sure they’re lined (or wear a slip) otherwise they cling to your legs (especially over tights) which is ugly and un-comfortable. Even knee length skirts can be revealing if you're not careful, thicker tights help, but if you don’t like tights, try hold ups, stockings or even over-the-knee socks, but watch your skirt covers the top. I’d recommend you try wearing maxi style briefs, knowing you're properly covered will make you feel more confident (especially if you're used to the held in feeling of jeans) also having all the waistbands in one place is more much comfortable and avoids horrid lines and bulges. Wearing underwear with good coverage and making sure it doesn’t show is a good start anyway but with layering, wearing a camisoles under a low top etc you’ll find lots of fashionable clothes work fine.

    Hope that helps, and enjoy it more, get him to buy you lots of pretty clothes, the best thing about DH wanting me to wear skirts is that he’s always happy for me to shop ! Susanne

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  6. Hi Susanne

    Thanks again for the reply and all the advice, it really helps!

    John usually buys knee length skirts. I have also got some ankle length skirts and 3 mini skirts which John always insist I wear with opaque tights.

    I really don't like wearing slips, I find another layer too much bother but sometimes they are a necessity. Thanks for the advice on a the maxi style briefs. I do have 1 pair John got me ages ago and think he forgot about them. I will try them again.

    How is your marriage in terms of decisions and the like? I presume your husband makes all the decisions? Does it annoy you sometimes, it does me. Sometimes I have gone against John's decisions, not deliberate, sometimes things happen when they shouldn't. John does set boundaries in our relationship which we talk about it so everything is out in the open. Anyway must go, write back soon. Kate

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  7. Kate // Yes my DH makes all the big decisions, but I run the house, we usually agree and he will sometimes compromise, but he definitely sets the tone of our relationship and there are lots of unwritten rules. I wanted to become a housewife and SAHM and that means a mix of being protected and in a way controlled. I’m not told what to do day to day, but I think it’s up to me to be feminine, proper, ladylike, whatever you want to call it and up to DH to set the boundaries.

    When we first got married on top of going skirts only, DH got me to change my hair, makeup that sort of thing, some quite personal stuff, which I’m used to now but grated at the time. Like you, I’m very sheltered when it comes to sex, violence and swearing on TV which is fine by me, but I do get annoyed when he quizzes me about what I’m reading especially as I’m just not interested in anything explicit. It also irritates me that although he is okay with me going out, I am very aware that married fiends with kids are fine, but he is not keen on me spending time with single or working friends and always asks why so & so doesn’t have kids. I don’t think mums should work and it doesn’t bother me that I can’t, but being financially dependent sometimes causes a bit of friction, he’s pretty generous but I am just aware of it.

    We still argue about clothes, he likes me in classic stuff that I think is frumpy, I usually win but if he doesn’t like something I soon know. He has a thing about a couple of my dresses being short (nowhere near mini but definitely opaque tights & knees together) so its lucky that my summer skirts are all knee plus long to be practical with plain tights and kids and that we both love the girly stuff in the shops for now. All my bras and briefs are the same now, plain white M & S so pretty slips, camisoles can be quite a nice romantic addition when I need the extra layer but I am under a lot of pressure to wear them lots more, which I’m not so keen on.

    Sorry to pry but hey you decided to blog ! How long have you been married ? Do you plan a family ? etc (So sorry to take so long v busy with the holidays) Susanne.

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  8. Hi Susanne

    Its hard adjusting isn't it? Well at least I think so, from slopping around as a single girl to learning to obey instructions.

    We got married last year, I will write about it when I get around it. I have almost finished writing the next entry, but I only have restriced time on the computer.

    Men can be very possessive can't they. They want us to be protected and they want to be the ones to protect us. It does have double standards.

    I am glad you have adjusted to it well. I am still struggling with things.

    Does your DH insist on you wearing tights all the time or just when it is required? My DH made this rule really from day one that I had to wear hoisery unless he gave me permission and from a tomboy that's hard!

    How does your DH enforce his rules if things go a bit off the rails. On exceptional circumstances I do get a spanking which does change the dynamics of things quite a lot but I did agree to love, honour and obey my husband and welcome his leadership and guidance. Its tough going at times and sometimes I get annoyned at my lack of freedom but John is very very loving and I do eagerly await his return from work as the dotting housewife. I know a lot of people that think this this is rather funny but there you go.

    How many children have you got if you don't mind me asking? You must be very busy looking after them and the house.

    Its lovely to get comments and stories so please write back soon, love Kate.

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  9. Hi Kate - sorry chaos with hols. Look forward to hearing about the wedding and your married life.

    The odd thing irritates me but I don't feel ordered around because we both wanted this life style that's why we got married and 90% of the time if DH wants something I'm okay with it. Also my family is Catholic and although we're not religious we had a church wedding and we are both keen to have really definite moral boundaries. Oh yes and mostly I'm just too tired to complain with three kids 2 boys (7 and 3) and girl of 5. Don't let anyone ever tell you being a SAHM is the easy option !

    No he doesn't insist on tights, his rules were no trousers, low tops or bikini's (not good anyway after 3 kids) but if he buys me something it's usually a hint so I know he likes tights. He would like me to wear a slips more often and he always goes for very girly dresses and longer fuller skirts. Your husband seems to buy lot's of things for you, have you got your wardrobe sorted out ? What do you wear now it's warm ? does he have rules on underwear night stuff etc, I'm not big but DH was always paranoid about me wearing proper bras and no cleavage.

    I'm shocked about the spanking thing, are you okay with it ? what on earth do you do wrong ? Is it just punishment or is there more too it ? DH wouldn't do anything like that. I get the odd word if I drink too much and he occasionally 'forces' makes me to wear a dress I hate as joke punishment that's about it aren't we dull.

    DH definitely thinks that "good girls" should be kept innocent and no doubt it's all to do with being possessive but I don't really want to watch people at it, and I like him caring even if he can be a bit extreme.

    I definitely haven't mentioned your latest post ! my God does he know you wrote that ? Do you take precautions now you're married ? Because we are trying to be good Catholics we have used NFP for the last two years, which works fine but you have to be very careful. As you can imagine DG is always up for it but just intercourse, when we can, he doesn't like me doing anything off piste, not even a hand J. He's pretty good when we can't and I try to help by not offering the opportunity (bed early straight to sleep etc) but sometimes when he just can't wait, he uses a condom, which is big thing for me bizarrely it makes me feel guilty, typical double standards.

    Can't wait to read more - Susanne.

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  10. Hi Susanne

    Thanks for your posting.

    How do you feel about no trouser rule. Does it bother you or are you use it now?. I really hate some of Johns rules, like skirts and tights. He really hates bare legs so for me its hoisery all the time. In the warmer months this is a problem but I have to get by, usually by wearing stockings or hold ups.

    The spanking issue was a big thing, I will write about it when I can. Its not as bad as extreme as you think, its just a way of him setting boundaries.

    I know what you mean by being a good girl. John is obessed with it. I am not allowed to watch unsuitable "tv" shows etc, yet it is okay for him to watch them.

    Sometimes I get upset at the level of control John has. He is very strict at times but also very loving. Do you find this.

    Have you ever rebelled at your hubby. I get annoyed when I am made to wear a dress I really don't like.

    The sexual side of things is really double standards. John like me to be almost shy. I have never refused his advances but at times it is very hard. Sex to him is about pleasing himself more than me.

    I am hoping to post again so watch this space. John doesn't know about this blog, he would go mad! Write back soon. Kate

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  11. Hi Kate - sorry very short of time.

    I genuinely prefer skirts but I sometimes find it hard not wearing trousers for kids stuff when I have to sit on the floor or crawl around. Lots of the other mums wear tunics (really short dresses) over capri's which I think looks okay but DH hates them. It's tricky finding a skirt which lets me move around but stay decent, usually either knee length and full with opaque tights or very long. I wear tights more than I used too and I wouldn't go without thick ones under a short skirt, but I think it's okay to go without if it's long. If it's about coverage, surely your husband wouldn't mind under a maxi dress ? With DH I always have to wear a lined skirt or a slip and I'm definitely not allowed to show cleavage or wear unpadded bras.

    I read a lot about 'Submission" in marriage (not bondage, spanking etc) but letting your husband lead in a loving relationship and I'd recommend you look at it, lots of the ideas come from religion maybe not your thing (mostly not mine) but given your relationship, I think you're going to have to stop fighting it and change your attitude. You'll find the clothes side of things much easier if you try to enjoy feeling feminine not just pleasing him, I've only worn trousers a few times since I got married - for sports and I really don't like it I feel like a bloke.

    So, no I don't rebel, I don't feel the need, I have the odd tantrum if he's not pulling his weight with the kids that's about it.

    I hate to say it but don't you think in the real world sex is mostly about keeping your husband happy, I couldn't accept the way yours behaves, but mostly DH is considerate and sticks to our principles so it's easier. Unless I say it's safe for him to make love to me, he tries not to get excited so we just cuddle (I always wear a nightie and knickers anyway). He is only sexually intimate when we can, so to be honest it is sometimes a bit rushed, but he doesn't masturbate (big thing for me) or do anything else with me, so I guess it's understandable. Anyway as long as I'm comfortable and he's gentle I just let him get on with it, I get excited sometimes but I'm very, very discrete as he doesn't like it if I do anything. Are you trying for a baby ? it's so different when you are, we were at it like rabbit's !!

    Looking forward to more of your story - Susanne

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  12. Does your DH let you wear trousers for doing certain kids activities or is it just a blanket ban on trousers all together. Its a shame he dislikes tunics as well.

    I am still rather confused about DH's ideas of my apperance but I suppose I did go into this with my eyes open, I just thought he would change or ease up but things got a lot stricter when I moved in. I really wish he was no so strict on hoisery and skirts but he is so there is not much I can do about it.

    Has your DH ever made you change if he is not happy with what you are wearing? I suppose its a bit easier if he does not make you wear tights!

    Does he always make you wear a slip? Did these rules come in when you got married?

    I am trying to submit but I feel this is a long journey and coming from a background where I did what I want and wore kind of blokey clothes it hard on me, especially the sudden change from jeans to skirts.

    Sexual submission I find complex. I have read a good wife should be submissive in all areas including the bedroom so I tend to let him get on with it, whatever he wants to do.

    Do write back soon.

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  13. Hi Kate

    No never - I don't have any ! It's not a problem but, you know what it's like I'm paranoid about flashing my underwear and kids are a nightmare !

    Don't bank on him easing up, he might relax a bit, leave it to you to choose, but clothes are such an important part of being his ideal kind of wife for sure he won't give up or compromise on skirts or tights. Why don’t you go out and buy lot's of really lovely girly dresses and enjoy looking nice, before you have kids to ruin them ?

    The tights thing is like DH's obsession with underwear, he loves loose feminine blouses, full skirts but my bra and pants have to be plain and cover / hold everything tightly even if no-one ever sees them. At the moment I only wear a mid layer (cami and half slip or full slip) if I need it but DH wants me to all the time, partly he just likes it but also (like your tights) he thinks it's more decent - I've said I'll think about it ! Is your DH strict on other stuff ? What do you do about swimsuits ? Just looking for one.

    I believe in submission, but it’s ALWAYS a two way thing, if your husband is the head of the house he has to be faithful and responsible for his family etc, etc. In the bedroom, I think there’s a VERY big distinction between submission as a wife and being exploited. PLEASE be really careful, trust me he will have VERY strong views about what he thinks YOU should do and there’s a double standard, men have a habit of blaming women when they can’t control themselves ! To me lots of the things you describe are completely immoral and degrading, I would just refuse, but I’m very prudish you might not mind ?

    In our marriage we both try to keep to strict Catholic morals and our vows. DG can only ejaculate (deliberately) if it’s inside my vagina so unless there’s a reason not to (periods, late pregnancy, post babies and now NFP) I try to let him. The real submission is not using contraception, Natural Family Planning isn’t 100% reliable (pretty good if you’re careful) but if we have an "accident" I'll be back in my maternity dresses no question ! I think Catholics are right about this, it drives me mad when women complain about fertility problems after ‘waiting’ to have kids for their career or because their husband was scared – if you’re married just let it happen !

    I fancy my husband a lot, I am very affectionate and cuddle him loads but he’s the boss when we make love, I just like being close and knowing he’s happy. The kitchen table would be great but pretty difficult with my underwear / tights ! so it’s always in bed, with him on top. At the start of the (safe) ‘honeymoon week’ he’s often so excited he pushes into me before I’m ready (ouch) and ejaculates immediately, but usually he’s nice and gentle and we have more time. How do you feel about orgasms ? We’ve talked about it and agreed that if I do fine (although I find it excruciatingly embarrassing) but I don’t want him to do anything ‘for me’. It’s funny reading your exploits, we couldn’t be more different ! It sound quite impersonal in some ways, but whereas DH’s penis is a complete mystery to me (I don’t touch it, he wears pyjama bottoms so I hardly ever see it and I’ve only ever felt him ejaculated) you get his thrust in your face (literally) !

    Looking forward to reading more - Susanne

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  14. Hi Susanne

    John use to go mental if I ever showed clothing that shouldn't be shown that hasn't happened for ages.

    I am still working on skirts, dresses, tights, stockings etc but I agree he is very strict on clothes and once I moved in things got worse so I just have to put up with it. Strange thing is he likes to buy my clothes. He is not a crossdresser or anything but just like buying for me. And other times his mother buys me stuff so I don't really need to.

    Will you DH eventually insist you wear a slip? John bought me a swim suit ages ago which is very modest but I can live with it. He has very strict views about nightmare. I have got some frilly night dresses which is not my choice but he likes them.

    Tell me about double standards. He sends me to bed early, he has even thrown away magazines if he thinks they are not suitable. Its okay for him to watch anything on tv though. The sex side, well really I now just let him get on with it. Yes I would like to enjoy it more but I do get enjoyment from just pleasing him.

    I was very shocked when John did things to me. Things I had never done before but I know this sounds terrible but I didn't want to loose him so I let him do what he wanted to do.

    I sometimes think that what I write here goes into too much detail. Do you think so? The reason I write about it , it is the only way I can talk openly about things. It really helps. I am making John into a monster. He is not honestly! Yes anal sex is something I dislike but John likes it and I want to please him. I hate facials but like being submissive to him so I submit to his penis! I know many, many people would never do things like this but I just seem to go along with it.

    Please write back soon. Kate

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  15. Hi Kate – delayed sorry – yes just read my previous, you’re right it is good to be able to talk about things, but it's all desperately private, thank God for the internet ! sorry if I’m a bit graphic but I prefer to be strictly anatomical – it’s less personal somehow.

    Your DH seems to do what he likes, whenever, for his pleasure, how does he square with not letting you see sex / nudity on TV or in magazines with making you have anal sex, and stuff like that ? It just doesn’t make sense to me, I guess anything’s okay as long as it’s HIM doing it ! Does he like that other stuff more than normal sex, or just do it when you’ve got your period or whatever ? Doesn’t it hurt ? Tell the truth I’ve bought some lubrication, because the last couple of ‘first times’ have been really uncomfortable and I’m ‘safe’ again this Friday. Are you using contraception ? I can’t help wondering what he would be like if you got pregnant – having kids will really clip his wings !

    In the interests of being more ladylike, I’ll try to talk clothes from now on ! Yes DH likes shopping with me too and he insists on approving some stuff (especially underwear) and always buys my nightdresses – I often wonder what they think in the shop ! But his dress sense is actually pretty good – if predictable

    I’ve given in and bought a couple of cotton slip’s and camisoles for the summer so that I can wear them all the time, before I’m asked. I have to really, I think I am supposed to dress modestly (not show too much or stand out) so whatever I think if DH thinks I need the extra layer, it’s his decision. Submission etc ....... By the way I couldn’t promise to obey but submission is part of it – what did your friends think, very un – PC. Also got a couple of new swimsuits (are you allowed bikini’s ? I’m definitely not, but not great anyway post baby) and some very light (7 denier) tights to wear at couple of weddings we’re going to (to be honest you hardly know they’re on), but you do have v smooth legs – a pain. - Susanne

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  16. Hi Susanna

    Very sorry for my very late reply.

    No problems about your descriptions, I don't like to beat around the bush, much prefer to come out with it!

    DH is one contradiction. He really hates if I am subject to sex, nudity etc on tv or magazines. He seems to want to protect me from it all as I am virgin. Of course I had two relationships before this one so I new a little but since dating John it has moved onto a new level. He thinks by me not being subject to anything sexual anything goes in the bedroom. I would rather not do anal sex but I do enjoy giving him the enjoyment from it if that makes sense. He does normal sex most often, but does anal sex when its that time of the month or sometimes when he feels like. No real pattern. When he first starting doing anal sex I was a bit scared but he started off slowly and with lots of lube. He used small "plugs" to start with which helps. It certainly isn't a quick one!

    You mention first times, does your partner use anal sex when its the time of the month?

    Certainly when kids arrive everything will change.

    I don't like going shopping with DH, but he loves it and yes I agree it feels strange when I have to come out of the changing rooms for approval.

    The obey bit I was dreading right up to the point of saying it but it went much better thant I thought and noboday actually mentioned it.

    bikini’s are out. He threw my 2 out when I moved in and were replaced by some one piece swimming suits, not very nice but essential I suppose.

    Your DH does not insist on tights or stockings does he? I wish I could go bare legged. My legs aren't great but I dislike tights.

    Do you deal with all the clothes and stuff for your children or does your DH have any say in that. One of my new friends who I met through John says her hubby is equally as strict on his two daughters but I suppose thats understandbly, especially the way some girls dress these days.

    It seems you have got a great balance in your relationship and you are happy with things. I still disagree a lot but I am learning to submit.

    My final thing, does your DH ever get you to change out of a dress or skirt if he deems it unsuitable? This has happened before, not just the dress, but shoes, stockings the lot. Very annoying after you have got changed.

    Write soon


    In the interests of being more ladylike, I’ll try to talk clothes from now on ! Yes DH likes shopping with me too and he insists on approving some stuff (especially underwear) and always buys my nightdresses – I often wonder what they think in the shop ! But his dress sense is actually pretty good – if predictable

    I’ve given in and bought a couple of cotton slip’s and camisoles for the summer so that I can wear them all the time, before I’m asked. I have to really, I think I am supposed to dress modestly (not show too much or stand out) so whatever I think if DH thinks I need the extra layer, it’s his decision. Submission etc ....... By the way I couldn’t promise to obey but submission is part of it – what did your friends think, very un – PC. Also got a couple of new swimsuits (are you allowed bikini’s ? I’m definitely not, but not great anyway post baby) and some very light (7 denier) tights to wear at couple of weddings we’re going to (to be honest you hardly know they’re on), but you do have v smooth legs – a pain. - Susanne

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  17. Sorry Kate – our home computer was on the blink so long delayed reply.

    As promised I’m keeping off the subject of sex except to say – good heavens no we don’t do anything like you guys. I am submissive in that unless I’m ill / on my period etc I always let DH have intercourse, but he expects me to be 100% moral and in Catholic marriage any sexual activity which is not ‘open to life’ (i.e. capable of leading to conception) is completely forbidden so he would go ape if I let him do anything else.

    I used to wear bikini’s but I haven’t owned one since I got married, I prefer a one piece anyway (especially after kids) so it’s not a problem. Do you have to cover up if you’re not swimming / sunbathing ? DH is very hot on that – I have to put a dress or skirt & top on straight away. No I don’t have to wear tights, except with shorter skirts, but it sounds as though DH is much more strict on underwear than your husband. Do you wear a slip very often ? I’m wearing a cami & slip or a full slip, mostly a full slip, ALL the time now at DH’s request, whatever I’m wearing, which has taken a bit of getting used to - it feels very girly, which I like but you might hate.

    No - I haven’t had to change my clothes because he doesn’t like them for years but a couple of times over the summer he has asked me to get a wrap or cardigan so my dress is less revealing on top, that sort of thing, which can be a bit irritating.

    Yes boy things will change when you have kids ! Can I be rude and ask if you’re trying ? It's strange for me to ask that as of course we can't use contraception, but we are being careful, so it's constantly in my mind every month. By the way does your H interfere with what you use at that time ?

    You asked about the kids clothes – it’s not an issue yet because they’re only young and my daughter always wants to wear a skirt ‘like mummy’ anyway, but he is very protective and I know he will be very conservative about her clothes when she’s older, and boyfriends will be a big problem. To be fair though I think he’ll be just as strict with the boys, he is teaching them to be very ‘gallant’ opening doors etc.

    You must be getting used to skirts more now, how did you enjoy them over the summer, what have you been wearing ?

    S

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  18. PS – love your post on the wedding. Sounds like you enjoyed it despite your reservations. How was it having your MIL ‘help’ choose the dress, even the lingerie – wow ?! and it must have been weird being ‘dressed’ and her seeing you naked. My mum and chief bridesmaid (DH’s sister) dressed me, underwear onwards, I would have been SO embarrassed. My dress was v modest with traditional long sleeves and my mum’s veil (waist length, plain with a white ribbon edge – very innocent).

    Our wedding night was our first time since we got engaged (nearly 8 months we hadn’t even spent a night together in case we got carried away) and my first ever without precautions, also first night in our new house new bed etc all v romantic ! (to be honest it was all over pretty quickly and hurt a bit !! - we both felt born again virgins !).

    Your going away outfit sounds super girly – I guess he wanted you to start as he meant you to go on ! What else did you take ?

    We spend a weeks honeymoon at friend’s in France. I felt v married – “Mrs”, ring etc, but also DH had told me what to pack (new underwear, swimsuit (no bikini), long nightdresses etc) and a dress for every day and evening !

    I’m shocked he made you put that ‘thing’ inside you, didn’t it hurt ? Weren’t you shocked ? Not just that he expected your to but that YOU obeyed ? It’s different obviously but when I got my period late in our week, DH threw away my tampons and told me I was NEVER to use them. I was really shocked, at him for being SO personal, but more at myself for obeying ("Always" have since). I guess we want to be submissive, but only to our H it’s so weird.

    Has how he behaves & treats you changed a lot since then ? What have you been wearing over the summer – what about winter clothes ? Wore opaques today - winter's comming ! S

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  19. Hi

    I suppose if a marriage is set to a Catholic standpoint it does make things more practical. Although we married in a church John does not prescribe to any bibical rules other than the wife should love, honour and obey!

    I never really wore a bikini before and when I met John he bought me a one piece costume which I used at hotel swimming pools but I had to change straight away when I left the pool.

    Getting naked in front of MIL was a bit nervy at first but after the first 10 seconds I just ignored it.

    The butt plug thing was something he wanted to do on honeymoon, to show my submissive side I think. I was very shocked but I did obey to his wishes.

    Why did you DH throw away your tampons? Did you argue about it? I sometimes find that John gets strict for no reason and that can he hard.

    What other things has your DH banned or not approved off.

    I have been in skirts or dresses all summer with hoisery, one of Johns rules. I have got an autumn wardrobe too and John said he will take me shopping to buy some more winter clothes.

    Write back soon.

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  20. Hi Kate – yes it is more “practical”, we know where we stand. John would approve, my role is to dress modestly, in feminine clothes, submit to my husband and have babies ! He wouldn’t like the very strict morals though !

    When we first got married, DH made me change loads of personal things, not using tampons was one, but hair, makeup, underwear all sorts of little things. I was surprised because we’d been together before and he hadn’t said anything, but as soon as we were married it was all different, he was in charge. It was a shock learning to obey and of course it can be annoying, I complain, but in the end, like your John he always wins. Has John got stricter since the wedding ? (Does he use that thing often ? it sounds horrid, does it hurt ? Is it just to make you submit or to make you ‘easier’ for anal - yikes ?)

    Just read your update, I really sympathise with what you say about being disconnected from work etc, DH is fine about my friends (as long as they’re married, ideally with kids) and going out, but I do miss seeing some old workmates.

    How are you getting on being a housewife, cooking, cleaning, entertaining etc ? How are you adapting to skirts, do you still struggle with doing anything ? What did you enjoy / hate wearing over the summer (other than tights), what have you got for the winter ? Does John still choose ? I buy my clothes but DH has to okay all my underwear, the latest being sets of full slips, half slips / camisoles, all knee length at least, so I've had to stop wearing anything shorter than mid calf – his plan for sure. I’ve just got several v plain M & S skirts just for around the house etc, bit frumpy but practical - what do you wear everyday, for housework, shopping etc ? - S

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  21. Hi

    Thanks for the reply

    Isn't it strange, when we get married they get even more strict they like have more rights over us. What was his objection over tampons. What other aspects did you have to obey when married, I would love to know.

    Yes John has become more strict since marriage. Before he asked me to go to bed, now its an order. Before he would ask me to undress in front of him, now its a command. He is also strict of tv content and magazines.

    The plug thing can be a tad annoying. I don't really understand his fasincation. I think that area is almost a no go area for some people and that makes it more appealing. I would rather be left alone but I do submit to him. Has you DH ever explored that area? It does make it a bit easier but it can still hurt if rushed.

    It would be nice to catch with old mates but if they don't approve, like you they are stamped or badged unsuitable. I find this hard at times.

    Just read your update, I really sympathise with.

    Being a housewife, well I am still learning and John thinks I haven't got there yet, often comparing me to some of his friends wifes and his mother points things out but I am working at it. I know this is now my job so I am making the most of it. How about you do you enjoy the housewife role?

    The summer was hard at times. I wore stockings on warmer days with. I asked for a mini skirt around the house in the warm weather when I knew I wasn't going out but John did not allow this. I would also like to wear leggings but John hates these so that is a no go area. What did you wear?

    I have been shopping a few time with John for winter clothes and his mother has also bought me a few things. He also buys on the net so my clothing is very much chosen by him.

    I don't really like slips but do wear them, another layer sometimes annoys me.

    Does your DH choose your underwear with you or does it buy it on his own. I think your DH is more easygoing than John, perhaps John will easy up a bit soon.

    Write back soon

    Kate

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  22. Hi Kate - v quick answer !

    DH got much much more strict and controlling after we got married. I wasn’t allowed had to cut or colour my hair without permission, I had to shave my legs & arm pits daily, keep v well trimmed down there. I mustn’t read or watch anything with, sex, nudity or extra marital relationships in it, I had to stop swearing, be v careful what I drank. The list was endless at first, I'm used to it now but he’s definitely not easy going. The tampon thing was because he says its unladylike for women to put anything inside their vagina.

    I have to be really careful what I do & wear when we can’t have sex as DH get’s very frustrated and sometimes blames me. He expects his wife to be 100% pure and not do anything ‘unladylike’, so when we were trying for a baby I was allowed to ask for sex when I was ovulating and even encouraged me to orgasm (it helps the sperm apparently), but definitely not now. I just tell him when I’m safe and try to let him enter me before he ejaculates, at least I’m safe from anal, oral etc he’s forbidden to do anything like that.

    I love being a SAHM and don't believe mums should work outside the home but it is hard work and it’s mean of John to make comparisons with others.

    I wore lots of maxi dresses and long skirts, this summer, loose skirts are great when it's hot (with holdups if you have to cover your legs) I would NEVER be allowed to wear leggings either, although thick tights are okay.

    We choose underwear together but DH sets the standards, plain, nothing lacy or see through, white and lot’s of coverage (high rise full briefs, full cup padded bras & now knee length slip & cami), once we find things we like and he approves I just buy a dozen, it saves having to think about it.

    Must dash – S

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  23. Hi there,

    Sorry for the late reply.

    I loved reading your posts, at least someone out there has similiar stories and things to share.

    Your hubby has very similiar views on shaving and sexual content although not that strict on clothes it seems. I suppose I can see the issue about tampons but it must be hard if that was what you were use to.

    Regarding sex, now that you have children does not bother too much if you orgasm. John doesn;t get any interest from my pleasure, almose a little turn off from him I think. He thinks sex is just for his pleasure only. Is anal and oral sex forbidden for religious reasons or because you can say no. I wish I could say no on certain aspects of sex.

    I do feel like I am the only one with a husband who insists all the time that legs should be covered. I haven't read on any other blogs or things about anyone else. I hate covering my legs all the times, I feel it is a silly rule and leggings are banned as well.

    John still buys a lot of my underwear on line and his mother buys the odd garment for me.

    Have you got a autumn wardrobe of does it just change depending on the weather. Does your hubby buy you lingerie or bedroom wear? I have clothes just for the bedroom which I woulnd't choose.

    I had a little shock the other day when I overhead his mother say my hair would look nice with a perm. He agreed but nothing has happened since thank the lord! Please write back soon

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  24. Hi Kate - quick catch up prefer here if that's okay ?

    Just read your latest - we don't do physical punishment but DH would be furious if I let anyone see me in my nightie so I'm not surprised John was sore about it. He has a real thing about it I have to be very careful around the house if we have guests staying - it’s only okay if I’m wearing proper underwear (including a bra) and a long robe over the top etc, but otherwise I have to get dressed.

    Interested in your punishment dress, what's it like ? I have an outfit DH ‘asks’ me to wear sometimes, not so much as a punishment, but more to bring me back to earth, make the point that he’s in charge and ‘remind’ me what he expects of me. It’s a dark blue dress, with a loose shapeless top, high neckline, long sleeves and very full calf length skirt, feminine, but deliberately very plain and I’m not allowed to wear jewellery (except my wedding ring) or anything else to jazz it up. I also have to wear my plainest underwear (with a long slip) not tights (John wouldn't like that) and flat plain shoes. I feel like I'm amish but it makes the point !

    Interested in your religious education. As you know we live by very strict Catholic family / sexual values - so I can empathise. I'm sure John will want you to do it so that you are a "good" - that is a chaste, modest and mainly submissive wife and mother. But it seems to me you are okay with that - he's the issue. Does he still make you do those horrible things ? Did you really lie to your Church group about being a virgin ? Anything we did before marriage is so taboo in our house, I almost think I was !

    How are you getting on clothes wise. Still struggling with tights ? Have you sorted out underwear etc ? Surely you must be used to skirts & dresses by now - how long has it been ? What do you like wearing ? I think there's some really nice stuff about for spring / summer, don’t you ?.

    Write soon - S

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  25. Hi Susanne

    Nice to hear back from you.

    Punishment dress is a dress MIL bought me. Not as a punishment dress but I and John both agreed I didn't suit it and he somehow converted it into a punishment dress.

    I think everyone has something in their wardrobe they don't like and when you have to wear it it makes you think about your behaviour. As you say you could jazz it up with nice shoes or jewellery but it that is banned it does make you look a bit bland.

    Regarding the church thing, yes I did lie about sleeping with him before marriage. I know it was bad but I would of been an outcast if they knew. He seems to want to mould me into his perfect wife but it is an going project.

    John still likes anal sex which I submit to, I guess its just him. I put up with it.

    Tights, I could put up with them once in a while but still dislike them every day. I think it is the issue of being made to wear them I dislike more. You don't have to wear tights all the time do you?

    I bought a new maxi dress last weekend and John said he will take me shopping next pay day for some summer clothes. Will keep you posted.

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  26. Hello Kate

    I have loved reading this. It is wonderful stuff, and very informative. I too have had a no trouser rule for almost 10 years, but this also extends to knickers, which for the most part, I can only wear during my period. My husband is quite old fashoined, and I guess I probably am too, but the issue with how I dressed came down to a health issue. I had suffered for years with various 'female complaints' which my husband (and reluctantly me too) put down to me wearing jeans all the time, so after a really bad episode, I was given my 'instructions'. No more trousers, and always open crotch unless it was absolutely unavoidable. I fought like hell, and it was a very bitter time in our marriage, but as I got into the habit of wearing skirts without underwear then it gradually became less of an issue. What changed over time though was the situations when I was allowed to wear underwear, or even trousers. Gradually I was expected to find ways to comply with the dress code for almost every activity, and that was really hard. I have more or less complied fully now, but it was a real struggle. I wear a clean slip every day as they are my underwear. In an odd sort of way I actually feel proud to have made the change, even though I did not have a choice.

    Teresh

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